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Binding: Electronics
Brand: Logitech
Compatibility: PC USB
EAN: 0097855007353
Label: Logitech
Manufacturer: Logitech
Model: 963203-0403
Publisher: Logitech
Sales Rank: 78646
Studio: Logitech
Warranty: 1 year warranty

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Product Description:
Logitech's Wingman Force will rock your world unlike any other force feedback joystick: gently! While other force feedback sticks produce violent, jerky feedback motion, the Wingman Force can give you smooth precision to simulate the nuances of a virtual world such as traveling over sandy terrain, or the hum of a vibrating engine. The Wingman Force accomplishes this subtlety using cable-drive technology used to train surgeons' hands, whereas most force feedback joysticks use a jerky belt-drive system. This isn't to say that the Wingman Force can't deliver a kick, either: you'll get the whole range of force feedback, from the quiet 200 vibrations/sec to a tooth-rattling explosion simulation. The Wingman Force offers no fewer than nine programmable buttons, and an eight-way hatswitch and throttle wheel. You'll rarely have to let go of the joystick to use a keyboard command. The Wingman Force can use either a standard serial connection or a USB connection, for compatibility with the system you have this year and the ones you'll have in the future as well. One final feature: as Logitech claims, this joystick is 'built to take abuse.' Logitech's fifteen-plus years of experience in designing top-notch input devices assures you that your Wingman Force will stay with you even when your virtual fighter gets blown out from under you for the one hundredth time.



Customer Reviews
Average Rating: out of 5 stars

Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - The best joystick bar none
I bought this joystick in the summer of 2000. As of now (Feb 2007) this beauty is still working like the day I took it out of the box. The force feedback is amazingly detailed. There are plenty of buttons that are programmable to even the most hard-core gamer's pleasure. This thing is as sturdy as sturdy can be. Part of me wishes that Logitech made an updated version of this, but the other part of me asks what's the point? This one is perfect. The steel cable force feedback mechanism is probably the best ever designed. The only thing that comes even close to the detail is the Logitech Driving Force Pro, and that's a wheel with forces only in two directions. If you are lucky enough to stumble across one of these, pick it up and enjoy. You won't be sorry.


Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - Wish they hadn't discontinued these!
Like another person's review said, this is easily one of the best joysticks ever made. I bought this joystick right when it came out in 1998 and paid way too much money for it at Frys. Back then there weren't many decent force feedback games, so it ended up in the garage for a few years. I recently dug it up and dusted it off to use with Flight Simulator 2004. Once I plugged it in and started using it, I couldn't stop smiling! It's such a disappointment that Logitech stopped making these! This was one of those products that was true quality, not a set of engineering trade offs to create bigger sales margins like today's cheap line of joysticks. The cable-system this joystick uses can create force feedback effects that are almost impossible to create with gear driven force feedback joysticks. This is truely a joystick where one can say "They don't make them like they used to."


Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - Best joystick ever! Manufacturers take note!
DON'T TRUST YOUR LIFE TO PLASTIC GEARS. This joystick uses steel cables for the control motors. There is a sensor in the handle that powers up the motors to center the stick. This is an award-winning handle design for comfort, and all the newer joysticks are some minimized version of it. It uses a 16 bit Intel processor for the force feedback and a 10 bit processor for the sensors.
These were discontinued because of the lack of torso-twist/rudder control, but it seems to me that the newer joysticks are sloppier, wear out quicker or just break because of this added function. Also were complaints about the large footprint, but this only makes for the most stable joystick you can buy, especially if you like the heavy feedback effects. The force feedback feature in joysticks has lost favor somewhat, with the more popular FPS games not supporting it anymore, but in this case, the force feedback motors still use the joystick software to control centering, even in non-force feedback games, so there is no slop in the middle. This is easily the best joystick ever for those who are still devoted to force-feedback effects, and one of the most accurate and stable for the money. I recently bought three of these for my LAN setup, two for christmas presents and one to replace one that was stolen. You can still find these on ebay, and I have yet to see one that shows any effects of wear.
If anybody ever makes a joystick as good as this without the cons, I'll buy it. The current reality is just a trade-off, and I'm not trading. Logitech has gotten worse, Saitek has unstable little bases, and the Thrustmasters are overpriced and still not as good as they should be unless you put aftermarket parts in them. I've been looking for a significantly better joystick for years since this one came out, and as of 2004, there still isn't one.


Rating: 5 out of 5 stars - Wow
I had this Joystick for about 3 years. It is very good, im am amazed that they are still selling it. I dont know if the usb works, it never worked for me. But if you use the other port it works fine. The force feedback can be very weak or strong depending on your settings. This is the best joystick imho, if you dont mind that the joystick takes up a lot of space.


Rating: 4 out of 5 stars - A very nice stick only missing rudder control
I like this stick much better than the equivalent Microsoft offering. It is more comfortable and has a good feature set for the price. It is a little big and it doesn't have a rudder control, though.

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